{"id":6531,"date":"2013-09-20T04:01:35","date_gmt":"2013-09-20T08:01:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/?p=6531"},"modified":"2013-09-17T13:02:05","modified_gmt":"2013-09-17T17:02:05","slug":"the-before-a-road-name-how-come","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/2013\/09\/20\/the-before-a-road-name-how-come\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;The&#8221; before a road name: how come?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_6542\" style=\"width: 295px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/files\/2013\/09\/question.png\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6542\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-6542 \" alt=\"Source: WordPress\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/files\/2013\/09\/question.png\" width=\"285\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/files\/2013\/09\/question.png 475w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/files\/2013\/09\/question-237x300.png 237w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 285px) 100vw, 285px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-6542\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Source: <a href=\"http:\/\/thismighthurt.files.wordpress.com\/2008\/11\/question.png\">WordPress<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p>For those of you who missed last week&#8217;s kick off of the new &#8220;how come?&#8221; feature at All In, here&#8217;s the deal: you ask a question about the region, we post it here, and solicit answers from others in the community.<\/p>\n<p>For example, last week, we had a question about Amish in the north country. We had<a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/2013\/09\/13\/how-come\/\"> a real expert weigh in on that one<\/a>, Karen Johnson Weiner.<\/p>\n<p>This week, our question comes from Donica Margaret via our Facebook page. She asks:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;How come people here call a road &#8220;the&#8221; whatever road? As in, Suzie lives in the green house on The Smith Road (instead of just Smith Road). My husband and I aren&#8217;t from here and I find it to be so&#8230;odd? My husband, a fluent French speaker, assumes that it&#8217;s a French influence (e.g., la rue).&#8221;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_6543\" style=\"width: 235px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/files\/2013\/09\/act-016.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6543\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-6543\" alt=\"Where we come from, Bill is holding those turkeys on The Maple Ridge Road. Right?\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/files\/2013\/09\/act-016-225x300.jpg\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/files\/2013\/09\/act-016-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/files\/2013\/09\/act-016-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/allin\/files\/2013\/09\/act-016.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-6543\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Where we come from, Bill is holding those turkeys on The Maple Ridge Road. Right? Photo: Ellen Rocco<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Then, someone pointed out that this custom seems to apply only where it&#8217;s a road name&#8211;the &#8220;the&#8221; is not there when we refer to a route or an avenue.<\/p>\n<p>And, Gary Pierce wrote, &#8220;Good one, Donica. I&#8217;ve lived here all my life and never realized that until someone from Buffalo pointed it out to me. Example, I tell people I live on &#8220;the&#8221; Harper Road, where as my friend says I live on Harper Road.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>While I grew up in Manhattan, I&#8217;ve lived here long enough to have adopted the &#8220;the&#8221; custom. I definitely use it when speaking about the road someone lives on. Always. The only example of an anomalous &#8220;the&#8221; that I can think of from my childhood is &#8220;The&#8221; Bronx. None of the other boroughs have a &#8220;the&#8221; &#8212; it&#8217;s stand alone for Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn and Staten Island.<\/p>\n<p>I searched briefly to see if I could find out why The Bronx has a &#8220;the.&#8221;Couldn&#8217;t find a definitive answer, but I&#8217;m guessing that it has something to do with being named after The Bronx River. Maybe? Here&#8217;s a link to <a href=\"http:\/\/bronxhistoricalsociety.org\/bxbrief.html\">The Bronx Historical Society&#8217;s<\/a> page.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ve really answered the &#8220;the&#8221; question. I&#8217;m going to see if our word friend, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.waywordradio.org\/\">Grant Barrett of &#8220;A Way With Words&#8221; can help us out. <\/a><\/p>\n<p>Stay tuned&#8230;or post your theory below. And, remember, we&#8217;re looking for your questions&#8211;from the trivial to the deep and meaningful. It&#8217;s all good. 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