Audio and minutes: NCPR Quarterly Executive Council Meeting, February 15, 2018

Listen to archive audio of the February 15, 2018 meeting:

EC_QuarterlyMygThe quarterly public meeting of North Country Public Radio’s Executive Council, which acts as the station’s community advisory board, was held Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 1:30 pm. as an audio phone conference.

The meeting audio was streamed online and made available by dial-in telephone.

The public was invited to participate by listening in and posting questions and/or comments on this post, or by calling toll-free: 1-877-388-6277. You can still email questions and comments to NCPR ([email protected])

Minutes: NCPR Quarterly Executive Council Meeting, February 15, 2018

COUNCIL ATTENDANCE: Mark Dzwonczyk, Rod Giltz, Hannah Hanford, Nancy Keet, Susanna Piller, Tom Pynchon, Paul Redfern, Christopher Robinson, John Rostenthal, Mark Scarlett, Marion Roach Smith

STAFF ATTENDANCE: Ellen Rocco, Jackie Sauter, Jon Sklaroff, Danielle LaCourse

EXCUSED: Cali Brooks, Linda Cohen, John Ernst, Steve Hopkins, Sarah Johnson, Dale Kramer, Alan McLeod, Stephen Meier, Dick Munro, Cathy Pircsuk.

CALL TO ORDER: 1:38 pm

RCORDED BY: Danielle LaCourse

ADJOURNMENT: 2:16PM

Introductions:

  1. Ellen introduces new St. Lawrence University liaison to the station, Paul Redfern, VP of Communications at SLU.
  2. Marion Roach Smith reports on the excitement surrounding the impending 50th anniversary dinner on SLU campus.

Item 1: Comments from Mark Dzwonczyk, new Executive Council Chair

  1. Mentions conversations with Ellen regarding membership on the Executive Council and the desire to include more geographic diversity of future members. Ellen notes the existence of the application form on the NCPR website for those interested in applying to be members.  Application deadline of June 1, 2018.
  2. Mark has moved to California full-time (will remain seasonal resident of the North Country), but wonders if he should remain chair of the Executive Council given that he is no longer physically local.

Item 2: Station News

  1. NCPR’s 50th Anniversary year. SLU devoted the cover of their March magazine to honor the station.  Many events have been scheduled through the year to celebrate.
  2. Trying to leverage the 50th anniversary and upcoming changes in station leadership to increase revenue to the station. Linda Cohen and Ellen have plans to create a significant new fund for the station.
  3. Mark Memmott, Senior Supervising Editor for Standards and Practices at NPR, is the station guest for the President’s dinner. He will give a speech, as well as be on the air during his visit to the station.
  4. Personnel update:
    1. The station remains fairly stable, but will lose Production Manager, Joel Hurd, at the end of March. National search has been started.
    2. Jackie Sauter initially had a tentative departure date of the end of June 2018; this date has been pushed back.
    3. Brain Mann is now officially Northeast Correspondent for NPR. Ellen offers clarification of Brian’s relationship with NPR and NCPR.
  5. Station event at Asgaard Farm on August 11, 2018.

Item 3: Update from Jackie

  1. Notes that as the meeting came to order, the station received correspondence from a listener who is concerned that the Executive Council never voted about whether or not to air Democracy Now!
  2. Decisions have been made to terminate a few NPR hosts (Tom Ashbrook, Garrison Keillor) after allegations came to light about bullying in workplace, mistreatment of employees, etc.  Anyone with questions or concerns can contact Jackie.
  3. Mark mentions that it is not within the purview of the Executive Council to make programming decisions (i.e. regarding Democracy Now!).  Confirmation of this from Jackie and Ellen.  Ellen takes note that the particular individual in question still wants NCPR to air Democracy Now!, but that the station’s reasons for not doing so remain valid.

Item 4: Future Meetings

  1. Next quarterly meeting on May 3, 2018.  Open to the public.
  2. July 19, 2018 meeting in Canton at Sykes Lounge on SLU campus.  12:30PM lunch, 1:30PM meeting start.
  3. October 25, 2018; February 7, 2019.  Going forward, possibility of having one or two meetings per year be moved to the early evening.

Item 5: Meeting Adjourned

Upcoming Executive Council meeting dates:

  • Thursday, May 3, 2018, 1:30-3:00 pm
  • Thursday, July 19, 2018, 1:30-3:00 pm
  • Thursday, October 25, 2018

The May meeting will be held in person at a location TBD, and the public is invited to attend. The July meeting will be held in person in Canton, NY (location TBD) and the public is invited to attend. Te October meeting will be held in person at a location TBD,

Members of the NCPR Executive Council in 2017:

  • Mark Dzwonczyk, Nicholville, NY (chair)
  • Cali Brooks, Lake Placid, NY
  • Linda Cohen, Old Forge, NY
  • John Ernst, North Hudson, NY
  • Rod Giltz, Plattsburgh, NY
  • Hannah Hanford, Saranac Lake, NY
  • Steve Hopkins, Keene Valley, NY
  • Sarah Johnson, Canton, NY
  • Nancy Keet, Saranac Lake, NY
  • Dale Kramer, Massena, NY
  • Alan McLeod, Kingston, ON
  • Stephen Meier, Queensbury, NY
  • Dick Munro, Clayton, NY
  • Cathy Pircsuk, Watertown, NY
  • Susanna Piller, Plattsburgh
  • Tom Pynchon, Canton, NY
  • Christopher Robinson, Potsdam, NY
  • John Rosenthal, Lake Placid, NY
  • Mark Scarlett, Hammond, NY
  • Marion Roach Smith, Troy, NY

The governing board of North Country Public Radio is the Board of Trustees of St. Lawrence University.

3 Comments on “Audio and minutes: NCPR Quarterly Executive Council Meeting, February 15, 2018”

  1. Richard says:

    I submitted a letter for the council of executives in time for the meeting, it was not read aloud, and it was held for “review”. It was not longer than the three minute time limit as written into the boards rules. Will it appear here? Don’t bother.

    It appears this board is occupied with other matters and is not a Community Advisory Board, in the CPB sense, if it has not preformed the duties of such a board, the satiation should stop taking federal money ahead of the Trump dissolution of the CPB and keeping the money so teachers can pack heat and protect teenagers and children from military assault weapons. Good move POTUS! GOP Guns Over People!

    At the last meeting my call for a member by member vote on the boards opinions as whether or not to recommend Democracy Now news was preempted by Martha Foley, once again, informing the board that they did not have to do that. No need for a vote and involvement on a part of the board! Thanks for the Community input Martha. She also misled the board insinuating that I am asking the board to make, not advise, (read my words) the station to try a new source of news Democracy Now. This is my point of contention, station administrative staff micro manages a board that is not even a remote reflection of the listening community. It does not make programming advisement. The staff is overly fixated on geographic representation of the board and excludes members based on class, ethnicity, income, political, sex etc. and breaks it own rules of voting on new members and turnover………
    Thanks for you time and service

  2. Michael Owen says:

    I see that you listed the names of the board members but I don’t see any contact information. Would you please correct this oversight?

    I need to contact each board member individually so that questions they a responsible for resolving can be done without launching a public campaign that may be damaging the station’s fund raising efforts.

  3. Richard Paolillo says:

    Dear NCPR CAB February 12, 2018
    Still waiting for the CAB Community Advisory Board of WSLU NCPR to request its members to listen to Democracy Now! as a supplement to NPR news; to vote up or down as to advise recommending or not recommending Democracy Now to the station’s management; and to GO ON RECORD as to its decision. The CAB has only listened to Station management and staff say no to ever having Democracy Now on the station (October 5, 2017), saying this issue is a, “deeply fixed guideline of the station.” The CAB needs to go on the record, and in the minutes with a member by member vote. Yes, I have been working on this for over a decade, primarily because this “Community Advisory Board” aka “Executive Counsel” has failed to preform even this elemental duty and reflect any instance in the record of fulfilling its duty.
    The last meeting someone mistook me for someone who presented at the July Meeting. I am not that person and this was not corrected at the meeting by staff in the know.
    At the July 27, 2017 meeting Mr. Robinson said, he “Listened to Democracy Now!” And thought it was a good program. At the October 5, 2017 meeting, (not sure it I have the right person,Mr. Dzwonczyk?) said, the request to air Democracy Now! “Doesn’t sound terribly unreasonable to me. Is there a reason why we don’t have Democracy Now? If it’s free? (34:00 time into meeting, October 5) ” These two phrases, are the entire extent of the Community Advisory Board’s discussion of the public’s suggestion for the board to consider Democracy Now! The board is negligent in its duty for the following reasons. 1) Ms. Rocco chaired the board until 2017 and then the Boards chairman ran the meetings. Not once has the management or the chairman, initiate a full investigation, by The CAB, of my proposal, or others proposal, to air Democracy Now! 2) In order to consider a program suggestion, the board would ask its members to sample the program several times and place a review and discussion of the program on the next meeting’s agenda. 3) At the next meeting, ask everyone if they reviewed the program, discuss and vote, each member yes or no, to recommend it to management. 4) Management would accept or reject the boards advisement. I am quite aware this is just an “advisory” board as I have read all the CPB laws and spoke with the Corporation For Public Broadcasting, CPB, Inspector General’s office several times. 5) IN the October meeting a board member believed I was the one to make an appearance at the July meeting calling for Democracy Now! I am not that person, and this was not clarified, nor corrected, by staff members who are very aware of the various parties making this petition.
    On October 5, 2017, just the mention of Democracy Now! on the part of a board member, triggered the management squelching all further board investigation, perhaps voting, recording this in the minutes and stopped the board from exercising its duty under CPB law. That, Mr. Chairman, is the main point of my petition over these last few meetings.
    In addition, the management claimed that Democracy Now is not fair and balanced…not neutral, objective or fact based and that there it is a “deeply fixed guideline of the station” to exclude Democracy Now! Where is this guide line? Where is a formal up and down vote, after due process, of this board? NPR news routinely quotes: Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram, and Glenn Beck (Just reviewed a movie on related to Alex Johns). When hauled into court over the years, these spokesmen of the Right, claim they’re not reporters, but entertainers, mere performance artists. Why does NPR quote them representing conservative views? Direct samples from these entertainers’ shows are a regular feature of NPR reporting of the Trump reign. Are they, “fair and balanced… neutral, objective or fact based?” No show is a perfect harbinger of the Truth.
    The CAB has yet to identify its members so that they may be evaluated as representative of the community, also required by CPB Rules. At last count July 2017 meeting there are three SLU trustees, several station employees/agents and many others I suspect are SLU alumni. Are all the board members SLU affiliated? It is understandable that station agents and management feel the communities educational and cultural needs provided through Democracy Now could be met “online, cable and other local stations.” There are many financially and technologically challenged listeners that have no access to these relatively expensive modes of media. This is indisputable in this region of low income, low education and high unemployment.
    NPR news is not alone in media circles as unfit and unable to cover the unique challenges of the Trump Presidency. The debate continues on NPR as to whether or not to label Trumps many false statements “lies.” There is an erosion of governmental norms and traditions; blizzards of Trump propaganda legitimized and orchestrated on Fox News; normalization of racism and white supremacy; delegitimizing of Law enforcement and investigations; Russian meddling in our elections; possible impeachable offences and violation of the U.S. Constitution, and on top of all that a president who has not once corrected himself or retracted a lie… NPR has not stepped up, unwilling or unable.
    When to call a lie? The Washington Post has listed Trumps false and misleading claims, “averaged 4.9 claims a day. At that pace, it appeared unlikely the president would break 2,000 in a year. But the longer the president has been in the job, the more frequently he touts an assortment of exaggerated, dubious or false claims.” The New York Times reports, “Many Americans have become accustomed to President Trump’s lies. But as regular as they have become, the country should not allow itself to become numb to them. So we have catalogued nearly every outright lie he has told publicly since taking the oath of office.” In addition, the NYT has a full page poster and online ongoing interactive feature reporting the false claims/lies with details.
    “An NPR News executive explained on Wednesday (January 2017) why reporters, to this day, have avoided using the word “lie” in describing President Donald Trump’s claims of massive voter fraud in the election. “Our job as journalists is to report, to find facts, and establish their authenticity and share them with everybody,” Michael Oreskes, senior vice president of news, said on NPR’s “Morning Edition.” “It’s really important that people understand that these aren’t our opinions. … These are things we’ve established through our journalism, through our reporting … and I think the minute you start branding things with a word like ‘lie,’ you push people away from you.” Other news organizations, like the New York Times, did use that term, and NPR acknowledged that there was some debate within its newsroom. She pointed to the Oxford English Dictionary definition of lie — a false statement made with intent to deceive. “Without the ability to peer into Donald Trump’s head, I can’t tell you what his intent was,” she said.”(Variety January 25, 2018)
    So, it has been a year. Trump still controls reporters like pawns on a chess board. Reporters for NPR, NYT and Washington Post have had more than a year to deconstruct the current President and yet they are unable, unwilling to stop Trump in his tracks with “Facts” and as NPR says “establish their authenticity and share them with everybody.” So were at 4.9 lies a day. That is a blizzard that even an astute news junkie could not keep up or sort out. Intent to lie is easy when a pattern is evident. Trump attacks News as “Fake.” The Press is one of the cornerstones holding a democracy together. To label the press as “Fake news” and for the press not have a strong response is unconscionable and a threat to our freedom. Criticism of the president is dismissed as fake news. NPR based news is just not up to the task. The task: aggressive hard-hitting questions; call out Trumps “intent”; insist Trump walk back “alternative facts”; contrast and compare facts verses Trump claims for authenticity. We cannot continue as a nation if there are no basic agreed upon standards of reality.
    We need in depth people, not corporate centered journalism, produced on Democracy Now more than ever. I know several dozen people who no longer listen or support the station. It needs to evolve, to attract new younger diverse audience; millennials that have better media savvy than us old folks. Many of the ex-listener/members did receive a call from Ellen asking them to contribute and come back as members. Ms. Rocco is a great at outreach and fundraising. We have too many choices of news to choose from. Will this station be the 46th NPR station to air Democracy Now! or the last?
    The Station must establish a CAB Community Advisory Board (not a board that “serve as”); a board that represents the community; its cultural, and educational needs as required by the CPB. If not, NCPR should forgo all CPB funds and declare it to be the private station it already is. Stop taking public money if you don’t play by the rules.

    Sincerely
    Richard Paolillo
    Additional Information Works Sited For Reference Only
    CAB Guidelines at CPB Corporation for Public Broadcasting https://www.cpb.org/stations/certification/cert3
    Tell NPR to Call a Lie a Lie, National Public Radio has announced that it will never refer to a lie by a U.S. president as a lie. Sign this petition to NPR News 45,832 have signed; goal is 50,000 act.rootsaction.org
    National Public Radio, Inc. How the Media Failed in Covering Donald Trump, David Folkenflik May 5, 2016.
    National Public Radio, Inc. ‘New York Times’ Editor: “WE Owed It To Our Readers’ To call Trump Claims Lies,” September 22, 2016 Morning Edition
    https://www.npr.org/sections/ombudsman/2017/01/26/511798707/the-pros-and-cons-of-nprs-policy-of-not-calling-out-lies
    Variety January 25, 2018 Update: Oreskes issued a statement with additional comments. “I have been in journalism for more than forty years. It’s my editorial judgement that use of the word lie has not been necessary to fully communicate the facts of the situation so far. That’s my judgement as a journalist and my decision as editorial director. Our job is to report and present the facts. That’s what gives our audiences the information they need to be good citizens. They are as capable as we are of judging the meaning of those facts. Many have concluded that those facts mean the president has lied. They seem to be the ones pressing for us to use the word. But if they’ve reached that judgement why do they need us to say it for them?” (Because there is a blizzard of 5 lies a day)
    There were also reports last week that the Trump transition team was mulling a budget plan that would privatize the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which provides funding to NPR stations. An NPR spokeswoman said that “funding has absolutely nothing to do with the editorial decision-making process in the NPR newsroom.”
    Clarification: Mary Louise Kelly quote was corrected to read that the claim was “provably not true,” not “probably not true.”

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