{"id":19112,"date":"2015-01-31T10:02:08","date_gmt":"2015-01-31T15:02:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/?p=19112"},"modified":"2015-01-31T10:09:48","modified_gmt":"2015-01-31T15:09:48","slug":"could-elizabeth-warren-topple-hillary-clinton-probably-not","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/2015\/01\/31\/could-elizabeth-warren-topple-hillary-clinton-probably-not\/","title":{"rendered":"Could Elizabeth Warren topple Hillary Clinton?  Probably not."},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_19113\" style=\"width: 247px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2015\/01\/warren.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19113\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-19113 \" alt=\"Can Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren topple Hillary Rodham Clinton?  \" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2015\/01\/warren-237x300.jpg\" width=\"237\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2015\/01\/warren-237x300.jpg 237w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2015\/01\/warren-118x150.jpg 118w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2015\/01\/warren-355x450.jpg 355w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2015\/01\/warren.jpg 581w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 237px) 100vw, 237px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-19113\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Can Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren topple Hillary Rodham Clinton?<\/p><\/div>\n<p>In 2008, Hillary Rodham Clinton was almost as sure a bet as she is going into 2016.\u00a0 The former first lady, US Senator, and later Secretary of State was beloved among rank-and-file Democrats.\u00a0 Unlike Al Gore, who edged away from the legacy of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton was happy to embrace his popularity and his centrist politics.<\/p>\n<p>But in the end, she lost to Barack Obama.\u00a0 And as we build toward the Democratic primary next year, a lot of progressives are suggesting that the same thing could happen again.\u00a0 A candidate from the party\u2019s left flank \u2013 Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders \u2013 could step in with a powerful populist message and claim the nomination.<\/p>\n<p>I think that\u2019s unlikely for a lot of reasons.\u00a0 But the biggest flaw in that political calculation is that it badly misremembers what actually happened in 2008.\u00a0 It gets wrong why Hillary lost to Barack.\u00a0 And it turns out that fixing her clumsy strategy \u2013 her losing strategy \u2013 isn\u2019t all that difficult.<\/p>\n<p>Translation?\u00a0 Hillary Clinton isn&#8217;t likely to fumble the ball on the goal line a second time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What people remember, what actually happened<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The memory that most people have of 2008 is of hope and change and Barack Obama&#8217;s soaring speeches.\u00a0 And he did turn out to be a strong, powerful campaigner.\u00a0 But that&#8217;s not how he won.\u00a0 He won because early in the primary, Hillary Clinton&#8217;s team made a fatal strategic error.<\/p>\n<p>She launched herself into the Democratic primary confident that she had built a solid team in the big Democratic states.\u00a0 New York, her adopted home state, was a lock.\u00a0 So was California.\u00a0 She had also built a solid ground game in Florida, a state that Democrats dearly hoped to win in the general election.<\/p>\n<p>And that all worked pretty much as planned.\u00a0 Look at the map of Clinton\u2019s eventual wins and it pretty much looks like a map of Democratic Party politics in the 21<sup>st<\/sup> century.\u00a0 Massachusetts?\u00a0 Check.\u00a0 Michigan?\u00a0 Check.\u00a0 Pennsylvania?\u00a0 Check.\u00a0 Ohio?\u00a0 Check.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not that Obama didn\u2019t win some Democratic states.\u00a0\u00a0 He did.\u00a0 In every primary, the frontrunner drops a handful of states.\u00a0 But what gave Obama the margin overall was a brilliant stealth campaign designed to pick up low-cost, often uncontested delegates in red-hot conservative states.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Obama&#8217;s red state strategy<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As the primary results began to roll in through 2008, it became clearer and clearer that Obama was winning fewer popular votes from Democrats than Clinton, particularly in the states that would actually vote Democratic in November.<\/p>\n<p>But by racking up small, chip-shot victories in places like Idaho, Kansas, North Dakota, Utah and Wyoming, the still largely-<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_19114\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2015\/01\/wins-obama.gif\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19114\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-19114\" alt=\"This chart from Wikipedia illustrates how Obama won the Democratic primary, by capturing lots of small, red states and battling strategically for a handful of actual Democratic states.  Source:  Wikipedia http:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/User:Northwest-historian\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2015\/01\/wins-obama-300x187.gif\" width=\"300\" height=\"187\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2015\/01\/wins-obama-300x187.gif 300w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2015\/01\/wins-obama-150x93.gif 150w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2015\/01\/wins-obama-450x281.gif 450w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-19114\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This chart from Wikipedia illustrates how Obama won the Democratic primary, by capturing lots of small, red states and battling strategically for a handful of actual Democratic states. Source: Wikipedia http:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/User:Northwest-historian<\/p><\/div>\n<p>unknown Senator from Illinois was socking away enough delegates to keep him in the game.<\/p>\n<p>He also brilliantly deployed activists in states that used caucuses rather than actual primary votes to assign their delegates.\u00a0 That meant he could pick up disproportionate numbers of delegates, when compared to his popularity, while spending relatively few campaign dollars.<\/p>\n<p>A great illustration of how this worked came in Texas.\u00a0 Clinton actually won that state&#8217;s primary pretty handily, by roughly a 51% to 47% margin. But after the complex mechanics of that state&#8217;s Democratic Party process had churned (Texas has a primary <em>and<\/em> caucuses), Obama actually emerged with more delegates, 99 to Clinton&#8217;s 94.<\/p>\n<p>Click the graph at the right and you&#8217;ll get a visual sense of just how badly Clinton&#8217;s team was outplayed over and over.<\/p>\n<p>It was a contest where Clinton&#8217;s strategists did everything right according to the old Democratic playbook, winning plenty of votes and winning the biggest states.\u00a0 But they still couldn&#8217;t deliver a knock-out punch.<\/p>\n<p>Obama&#8217;s plan eventually forced Clinton to campaign more and more aggressively.\u00a0 She scrambled, belatedly, to try to win more small, conservative states.\u00a0 She began making mistakes on the stump as the math turned against her.<\/p>\n<p>The loss that finally forced her to concede?\u00a0 It came in Montana, a state that Obama won handily in the primary, but which hasn\u2019t voted for a Democratic president since 1992.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Brilliant politics, but could it happen again?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/05\/obamainoval_375.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-8126\" alt=\"obamainoval_375\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/05\/obamainoval_375-300x240.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/05\/obamainoval_375-300x240.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/05\/obamainoval_375-150x120.jpg 150w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/05\/obamainoval_375.jpg 375w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>It\u2019s important to point out that Barack Obama didn\u2019t cheat his way into the White House.\u00a0 Rather, he exploited a muddly, byzantine Democratic primary system brilliantly, developing a ground game that was perfectly designed to squeeze as much advantage as possible from wins in states that most Democrats neglected, like Alaska and Oklahoma.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, his team focused their scant resources in a calculated bid to pick off a few actual Democratic states.\u00a0 It was, in political terms, pure genius.<\/p>\n<p>Even so, this long march strategy probably would have been impossible if Obama himself weren\u2019t rooted in two significant Democratic states, Hawaii and Illinois, which he won without much effort. And it\u2019s important to note that even with this \u201cI\u2019m playing chess and you\u2019re playing checkers\u201d ground game, Obama barely won.\u00a0 It was a near thing.<\/p>\n<p>So what does this say about Hillary in 2016?<\/p>\n<p>It says that fixing her losing primary strategy is actually fairly easy.\u00a0 There is no evidence that she had a flawed message or a broken political brand, or that she was an inadequate candidate on the stump.\u00a0 Those are things that politicians struggle mightily to repair.<\/p>\n<p>Clinton&#8217;s task is much easier.\u00a0 Her team simply needs to organize a stronger primary effort \u2013 caucus supporters, local campaign staff, etc. \u2013 in half a dozen small, red states. \u00a0That will allow her to build on near-certain wins in California and New York in a way that won\u2019t leave plenty of fertile territory in the Heartland for a well-organized insurgent.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Can someone beat Hillary in a head-to-head match-up?<\/strong><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7222\" style=\"width: 238px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/01\/Clinton-Offiial-Portraita20_600_1.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7222\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-7222 \" alt=\"SOURCE:  US STATE DEPARTMENT\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/01\/Clinton-Offiial-Portraita20_600_1-228x300.jpg\" width=\"228\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/01\/Clinton-Offiial-Portraita20_600_1-228x300.jpg 228w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/01\/Clinton-Offiial-Portraita20_600_1-114x150.jpg 114w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/01\/Clinton-Offiial-Portraita20_600_1-343x450.jpg 343w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/01\/Clinton-Offiial-Portraita20_600_1.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 228px) 100vw, 228px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-7222\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">SOURCE: US STATE DEPARTMENT<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Without being able to borrow from Barack Obama\u2019s ingenious red-state playbook, a progressive like Warren or Sanders will have to fight Hillary head-to-head.<\/p>\n<p>They\u2019ll have to battle to win at least one or two monster blue states like California, Illinois, Ohio or Pennsylvania.\u00a0 (Warren might be able to count on a win in her home state of Massachusetts, but it&#8217;s hardly a sure thing.)<\/p>\n<p>That kind of straight-up <em>mano a mano<\/em> strategy is far more expensive and complex and confrontational.\u00a0 It&#8217;s also a fight that will be far more difficult to sustain after one or two big losses. And there will be far less time for an insurgent to hone a working message and develop a sense of momentum.<\/p>\n<p>Sanders or Warren will have to get it right almost from the outset.\u00a0 That&#8217;s a big contrast from Obama&#8217;s method, which allowed him months in which to build his war chest and grown his brand and name recognition.<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line is that Hillary Rodham\u2019s team was badly outsmarted eight years ago.\u00a0 They were wildly over-confident.\u00a0 If Clinton runs again, she\u2019ll certainly be more wary, more thorough.\u00a0 She won&#8217;t leave lots of poker chips lying on the table unclaimed.<\/p>\n<p>Unless her opponents come up with a new edge, a cunning new Obama-style strategy, they\u2019ll actually have win straight.\u00a0 That means convincing a majority of Democrats that Hillary Rodham Clinton\u2019s time has passed.\u00a0 The party faithful will have to reject her outright.<\/p>\n<p>Obama&#8217;s virtuoso campaign essentially allowed him to <em>go around<\/em> Clinton.\u00a0\u00a0 Her next challenger will have to go straight through her.\u00a0 That kind of attack message will be painfully tricky, given Clinton&#8217;s deep roots and loyalty in the party&#8217;s base.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In 2008, Hillary Rodham Clinton was almost as sure a bet as she is going [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19112"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/12"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=19112"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19112\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":19119,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19112\/revisions\/19119"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=19112"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=19112"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=19112"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}