{"id":2570,"date":"2010-09-01T11:04:56","date_gmt":"2010-09-01T15:04:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/?p=2570"},"modified":"2010-09-01T11:36:43","modified_gmt":"2010-09-01T15:36:43","slug":"love-it-or-leave-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/2010\/09\/01\/love-it-or-leave-it\/","title":{"rendered":"Love it or leave it"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the stranger contradictions within the conservative movement involves love of country and loyalty to the idea that America is an exceptional place.<\/p>\n<p>In an interview this week with the liberal <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talkingpointsmemo.com\/archives\/2010\/09\/full-blown_other-ism.php?ref=fpblg\">blog Talking Points Memo<\/a>, conservative activist, gubernatorial candidate and former Colorado congressman Tom Tancredo said this about President Barack Obama:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;There is something about this [country] that he dislikes intensely, and he wants to transform.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s a common theme on the right, this notion that Mr. Obama and the Democrats are trying to transform the United States in subtle and not-so-subtle ways.<\/p>\n<p>Often, these efforts are portrayed as an effort to make our society &#8220;more European&#8221; or &#8220;more socialist.&#8221;\u00a0 Mr. Obama is also accused of being far too eager to apologize for America&#8217;s past policies.<\/p>\n<p>But here&#8217;s the wrinkle.\u00a0 Those same conservatives also say (sometimes in the same breath) that they despise modern America.\u00a0 They insist that the country <em>needs<\/em> to be transformed.<\/p>\n<p>According to Glenn Beck, his rally in Washington was aimed at &#8220;restoring honor&#8221; to our nation.<\/p>\n<p>Opinions differ on the right over just when we lost our honor.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/templates\/story\/story.php?storyId=129535008\">In an interview this week on NPR<\/a>, the Southern Baptist Convention&#8217;s Richard Land argued that it happened half a century ago.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;[M]y answer would be the &#8217;60s, that the nation took a wrong turn in  the &#8217;60s. There were some good things that happened in the &#8217;60s, but a  lot of bad things happened in the &#8217;60s.<\/p>\n<p>And I  certainly don&#8217;t agree with the ethos of the sexual revolution and the  moral relativism that came with it, and the divorce that came with it,  and the illegitimacy that came with.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Some conservatives push the America-gone-wrong narrative back even further, to the 1930s when Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman began constructing the New Deal and the social safety net that includes Social Security.<\/p>\n<p>I for one think the idea that 1950s-Jim Crow-era America was more moral and just than our modern society is sketchy at best.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s also hard to argue in favor of a return to epidemic levels of poverty among the elderly.\u00a0 Or to an age when women&#8217;s roles were largely confined to the home.<\/p>\n<p>Or an age when the lack of regulation on industrial pollution meant that American rivers were so toxic that they sometimes burst into flame.<\/p>\n<p>But set that aside all that for a moment:<\/p>\n<p>Even if you accept the conservative argument on its face, they are calling for us to &#8220;take back&#8221; a nation that a dwindling number of us ever experienced.<\/p>\n<p>For better or worse, the vast majority of us are products of this nation, this America, this version of a &#8220;normal&#8221; society.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s also worth noting that our great nation has been led and shaped and governed by Republicans &#8212; all of them Christian, some of them intensely so &#8212; for a significant part of the &#8220;wrong turn&#8221; era.<\/p>\n<p>Yet some conservative leaders are so disgusted with our country as it exists today that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2009\/04\/18\/us\/politics\/18texas.html\">they talk openly of secession<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>They suggest that despite our long-established democratic traditions, &#8220;second Amendment solutions&#8221; or a full-scale &#8220;revolution&#8221; might be needed to change things.<\/p>\n<p>Really, you can&#8217;t have it both ways.<\/p>\n<p>You can&#8217;t campaign on a &#8220;love it or leave&#8221; it brand of loyalty and American exceptionalism, while also trash-talking the country as it has existed for the better part of a century, calling it dishonorable, and flirting with the idea of breaking it up.<\/p>\n<p>Your comments welcome.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the stranger contradictions within the conservative movement involves love of country and loyalty [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2570"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/12"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2570"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2570\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2573,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2570\/revisions\/2573"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2570"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2570"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2570"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}