{"id":5128,"date":"2011-11-29T07:32:00","date_gmt":"2011-11-29T12:32:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/?p=5128"},"modified":"2011-12-02T10:40:30","modified_gmt":"2011-12-02T15:40:30","slug":"in-canada-trusting-the-safety-net","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/2011\/11\/29\/in-canada-trusting-the-safety-net\/","title":{"rendered":"In Canada, trusting the safety net"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Monday afternoon on the streets of Toronto, I spent a couple of hours talking to workers &#8212; people, in other words &#8212; about their lives in a troubled economy.<\/p>\n<p>Three take-aways struck me:<\/p>\n<p>First, at street level in Canada, a lot of folks feel very fortunate indeed.\u00a0 They&#8217;re not romantics.\u00a0 They don&#8217;t think their country is perfect.\u00a0 You find Occupy camps in places like Kingston and Toronto, just as you do in Burlington and New York City.<\/p>\n<p>But even people who&#8217;ve spent time on unemployment think that their country is a relative oasis in a world where economies still seem at risk of unraveling.<\/p>\n<p>The second thing that seemed striking was that these people &#8212; obviously this was about as unscientific a sampling as you could find &#8212; trust their society&#8217;s social safety net.<\/p>\n<p>They simply don&#8217;t believe that their country will ever just cut them loose if they&#8217;re jobless.\u00a0 That&#8217;s not to say that Canada&#8217;s unemployment benefits are lavish &#8212; they&#8217;re not.<\/p>\n<p>But you just get the sense here that Canadians trust their government &#8212; and believe in government&#8217;s moral role when it comes to serving as a backstop to the job market.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, I heard a lot of real misgivings about America&#8217;s way of thinking and talking about jobless people.<\/p>\n<p>The idea that people must be lazy, or slackers, or leeches, in order to be unemployed, or unsuccessful &#8212; that just didn&#8217;t wash with the people I spoke to.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the conversation I had with two women, Nicole and Nina, as they were walking home from work:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Tahoma; color: black; font-size: x-small;\">Nina:\u00a0  I think [American workers are] treated worse than we are, personally.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t agree  that they don&#8217;t get healthcare.\u00a0 And I don&#8217;t agree that once they&#8217;re out  of a job, they&#8217;re out of everything.\u00a0 I think they need some of the  types of benefits that we have here.\u00a0 Yeah, we pay a lot of tax, but it adds up and I think it ends up being  beneficial to us.<\/p>\n<p>Nicole:\u00a0 I do think that Americans are treated poorly in terms of your  economic living.\u00a0 Like, where is the money going?\u00a0 The rich seems to be  getting richer and the poor seems to be getting poorer over there.<\/p>\n<p>Brian:\u00a0 Do you think that&#8217;s in Canada too, or more in the United States.<\/p>\n<p>Nicole:\u00a0 It&#8217;s more the United States.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>One thing that I will say is that there is no evidence &#8212; at least that I can find &#8212; that Canada&#8217;s more robust safety net results in more malingering, or more abuse of the welfare system.<\/p>\n<p>On the contrary:\u00a0 There&#8217;s a fair amount of evidence that these programs help to stabilize Canada&#8217;s economy, maintaining a more educated, healthy, productive work force.<\/p>\n<p>So what do you think?\u00a0 Is this a case where our neighbors to the north have a better model?\u00a0 Or do you prefer our more laissez-faire system?\u00a0 Comments welcome below.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Monday afternoon on the streets of Toronto, I spent a couple of hours talking to [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[880,6591,10],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5128"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/12"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5128"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5128\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5129,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5128\/revisions\/5129"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5128"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5128"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5128"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}