{"id":9242,"date":"2013-06-30T08:20:29","date_gmt":"2013-06-30T12:20:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/?p=9242"},"modified":"2013-06-30T08:55:44","modified_gmt":"2013-06-30T12:55:44","slug":"the-final-frontier-for-gay-rights-comedy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/2013\/06\/30\/the-final-frontier-for-gay-rights-comedy\/","title":{"rendered":"The final frontier for gay rights?  Comedy."},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_9243\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/06\/louis-ck.jpg\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9243\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-9243\" alt=\"Good luck with that punch line.  (Source:  Tickld.com website)\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/06\/louis-ck-300x180.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"180\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/06\/louis-ck-300x180.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/06\/louis-ck-150x90.jpg 150w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/06\/louis-ck-450x270.jpg 450w, https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/files\/2013\/06\/louis-ck.jpg 460w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-9243\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Good luck with that punch line. (Source: Tickld.com website)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>(Warning: This blog post includes a frank discussion of sex and homosexuality, including a couple of euphemisms for gay sex.)<\/p>\n<p>This weekend, as the rest of the country chewed over a pair of landmark Supreme Court decisions establishing broader legal and civil rights for gay and lesbian Americans, I was watching old stand-up comedy specials on Netflix and humor bits on Youtube.<\/p>\n<p>I know, I know.\u00a0 Pretty highbrow stuff.<\/p>\n<p>The reason I went back to the gag reel was that I had this sort of queasy after-image in my mind of a hell of a lot of stupid anti-gay humor flowing from comedians who are supposed to be liberal, enlightened, aware.<\/p>\n<p>Guys calling each other faggot.\u00a0 Guys making &#8220;ick&#8221; jokes about anal sex.\u00a0 Guys slobbering over the idea of women having sex with each other.<\/p>\n<p>And sadly I found my memory pretty much confirmed.<\/p>\n<p>While five gray-haired Supreme Court justices &#8212; and most of the American public &#8212; have moved past the idea that gay people are, you know, kind of gross-funny, &#8220;faggot&#8221; schticks are still a staple for humorists who want us to think of them as cutting edge.<\/p>\n<p>There aren&#8217;t the fringe guys.\u00a0 I&#8217;m talking the A-list of American comedy here.\u00a0 Louis CK, Zach Galifianakis, Daniel Tosh,\u00a0 Seth Rogen, and on and on.\u00a0 Need a cheap laugh?\u00a0 Default to the queer jokes.<\/p>\n<p>This clip, illustrating my point, is NSFW in a big way.\u00a0 If you&#8217;re offended by sexual references and profanity, please don&#8217;t play it.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"315\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/VX0SD_cazhs\" width=\"420\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>The premise of these jokes &#8212; the underlying tension that supposedly makes them &#8220;funny&#8221; &#8212; is the same premise that drives the homophobia and intolerance that have shaped our public debate over the last decade or so.<\/p>\n<p>Gayness is gross. The word &#8220;faggot&#8221; is transgressive and thrilling, because being a faggot is transgressive and scary.<\/p>\n<p>The dodge &#8212; the reason these guys think it&#8217;s okay &#8212; is that they fly under a flag of cool irony. Everybody knows they&#8217;re not really homophobic, right?<\/p>\n<p>They&#8217;re just pretending to be a couple of dudes tossing around incredibly stupid gay cliches.\u00a0 And they&#8217;re so self-aware, so politically correct that their political incorrectness gets a pass.<\/p>\n<p>Louis CK in particular has tried to sort of own this material.\u00a0 &#8220;I would never call a gay guy a faggot, unless he was being a faggot,&#8221; he says.<\/p>\n<p>The suggestion is that it&#8217;s fine for him to draw some funky deep-cool comedian&#8217;s line between acceptable gayness and Minstrel-show faggotness.\u00a0 Sorry, bro.\u00a0 That\u00a0 stuff won&#8217;t age well.<\/p>\n<p>I went back and watched Dean Martin roasting Sammy Davis Jr., joking that as a baby the black comedian slept in a hollowed out watermelon and joshing him about being on the Ku Klux Klan&#8217;s hit list.<\/p>\n<p>I watched the forced smiles on the faces of the other black comedians in the room. Yuk-yuk.<\/p>\n<p>I suspect that a lot of this residual gay-is-funny stuff is a bit of a hangover. Not so long ago, being gay was kind of weird and different and exotic to most Americans &#8212; and that&#8217;s a great formula for jokes.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ve always made people who are different from us out to be laughable. I grew up in the 1960s hearing &#8220;Polack&#8221; and &#8220;n-word&#8221; and &#8220;wop&#8221; jokes. Now it&#8217;s like &#8220;Why exactly would that crap be funny?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m guessing this will turn pretty quickly. A comedian will be on stage making his usual &#8220;pop-nob-in-fanny&#8221; queer jokes and the mood in the room will turn. People won&#8217;t laugh, they&#8217;ll cringe.<\/p>\n<p>The laugh-line will give way to silence.\u00a0 And good comedians will get busy flushing out their material, moving on to stuff that&#8217;s actually, you know, funny.<\/p>\n<p>The sad irony is that it looks like these cool, hep, liberal cutting-edge guys will be the last ones to truly touch down in the new America.<\/p>\n<p>Social conservatives and Baptist preachers and people in Oklahoma are learning new and better ways to talk about their gay neighbors &#8212; by which I mean they&#8217;ve mostly stopped caring much one way or another about two gay people shopping in Wal-Mart, or getting married, or having a kid.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, these sad, middle-aged white dude comedians will still be snickering and whoofing and nervously questioning each other&#8217;s claim to straightness.<\/p>\n<p>How profoundly unfunny is that?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Warning: This blog post includes a frank discussion of sex and homosexuality, including a couple [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9242"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/12"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9242"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9242\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9245,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9242\/revisions\/9245"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9242"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9242"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org\/inbox\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9242"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}