Hoffman’s 3rd party Conservative bid deals devastating blow to Doheny’s GOP candidacy
A few minutes ago, Doug Hoffman issued a formal statement that he will proceed as a 3rd-party Conservative candidate in NY-23.
After conceding the GOP primary race, his opening salvo was directed at Republican Matt Doheny:
“It was not an easy victory for Mr. Doheny; he outspent my campaign by a 12-1 margin and had the backing of all 11 of the GOP bosses and yet only out-polled me by a few hundred votes.”
Hoffman goes on to add this personal note:
“Understand, I do not continue this race out of spite or because of self conceived virtues. I continue in this race because of the failings of my opponents to be truthful with the voters.
“Whether we look a Mr. Owens’ support of Obama-care or Mr. Doheny claim to be pro-life when in fact he supports abortion through the first trimester, we see two candidates who will do or say anything to get a vote elected.”
Matt Doheny has put a brave face today on the challenges of running a campaign against Democrat Bill Owens, while also contending with attacks from Hoffman.
But it would be difficult to frame this development in any other way than as a major blow to the GOP’s chances to retake the 23rd House seat.
On this day when Doheny was claiming victory in the Republican Primary, Hoffman’s dramatic announcement eclipses — or at least complicates — what should have been a good news cycle for Doheny.
We’ll be speaking with all the candidates later on All Before Five and the 8 O’clock Hour.
Your comments welcome.
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So the rank and file GOP had their say and we elected Matt Doheny as the man with the best chance to defeat Bill Owens. Doug staying in the race is no different than Dede endorsing Owens last year and it serves no purpose other than inflating the ego of Mr. Hoffman.
I have to give Hoffman the courtesy of thinking that he must believe that he just might win in a 3-way race.
from where I write, this decision makes the race a shoo-in for Owens.
I would rather see Owens in who runs as a democrat than see Doheny in who runs as a republican and acts like a democrat. As a conservative, I’d of course prefer Hoffman in office but if that is not possible then I would do anything to keep the GOP and Matt Doheny from having the satisfaction of thinking that they have fooled voters into thinking he represents conservative republicans because he does not.
Isn’t that just heroic of Mr. Hoffman………. if I can’t have it then I’ll just give it to the Democrats. I am ashamed to say I was going to vote for Hoffman if he won, now it will be a very frosty day in Hell before I ever vote for him again.
The people again voted for G.O.P. plant. When will the people understand that both parties are at fault? People should not vote for anyone either party endorse. I guess fools never learn.
I can’t belive Hoffman can he not take a NO from the voter. He needs to get a life outside of politics.
So if Hoffman won, then he would be the GOP plant?
The time is always right to do what is right. The core values of Doug Hoffman outweigh his opponents to the people. He stands for honesty and integrity. He is for the people and know what we want. People of this State are tired of government spending and putting our children in the poor house. Get involved and help make a difference. By-Partizan politics makes no sense in this wonderful United States. It should never be about who is what it should be WHO CAN DO WHAT and get the job done and Doug Hoffman is our Candidate!Good Luck Doug, You have mine and many more votes counted on.
You go Doug. You have so many that support you. You are doing this for us. A real man never gives up, and but continues in spite of all the wrong around him. This is a Democrat that will vote for you in November.
I stand by what I have been saying all along.
The GOP dealt a blow to NY23 by not running a conservative candidate.
“Fiscally conservative” is an excuse to show that Doheny is pro-choice, and that is not accpetable.
Like I said before, the House will likely go Republican with or without NY23.
I hope those who want a true-conservative stand by their candidate, Doug Hoffman, and let the chips fall where they may.
If they fall to Owens, shame on the NY23 GOP leadership who picked a flawed candidate.
The voters have spoken…Hoffman should listen! Don’t be a sore loser!
I had hopes for Doug being the better of the 2 poor candidates. I didn’t think he could actually beat Owens, but I would have preferred him to Doheney. Now it’s definitely in Ownes hands. I just hope Doug is doing this for the right reasons and not just bitterness or ego.
Doug Hoffman is the reason that the Conservative Candidate for Governor, whoever that may be WILL NOT get 50,000 votes in November. The line is going away because it is now costing Republicans elections. The Democrats will now have an advantage with the Working Families party line in lock step with their candidates. buaahhhahahha!
Mr.Hoffman thank you, you just made my day. G.O.P you got just what you deserve by back stabbing De De. Just because De De wasn’t conservative enough for your party. She did what the people voted her in office to do, take care of the 23rd problems,some times one must work both sides of the fence.Has for Doheny, all he is, is a want to be big shot,listen to him, sounds like the trash thats already there.Thank GOD Hoffman is giving me the chance to vote out the incumbent.
“I stand by what I have been saying all along.”
This?
“Hoffman takes the primary and the election.”
http://blogs.northcountrypublicradio.org/inbox/2010/08/18/brians-late-summer-mid-term-predictions-what-are-yours/
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WE AND OUR KIDS ARE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE IF WE KEEP SENDING CANDIDATES THAT ARE PART OF THE MACHINE THAT IS WASHINGTON AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS WELL AS THE DEMOCRAT PARTY FOR THAT MATTER IT’S TIME TO SEND “MR. SMITH” TO WASHINGTON.
Hasn’t the American public been clamoring for choices in elections? Why is it assumed that the 2 main parties are the only two that can win? If either of the 2 main parties are strong enough, one of them will win, regardless who their opponents are. More choices create more dialog, which is what we haven’t had in the past, which is why we’re in the mess we’re in now. Sure, it would be nice if Hoffman were a little more charismatic, but he’s an every day Joe, who has paid his dues, and really knows what it’s like down here in the trenches. Doheny claims he knows us, but he made his big bucks in Wall Street. Does he REALLY get it? I may not decide until I close the polling curtain who I will vote for, but I will choose the one I believe represents my beliefs and will do his best to fight for us. It shouldn’t be about voting for who will win – this isn’t a game, people!!!
I sure hope Bill Owens will pay back this gift in kind by making Mr. Hoffman his new chief of staff when he (Bill Owens) is reelected!
Kathy, all “choice” in our kind of democracy is framed by the two major parties. In a parliamentary system (every other modern democratic state has this) there is the possibility of proportional representation. Not in ours. Third parties are set up to fail because of the structure of our system. Token third parties come and go. The two big boys abide forever.
The two major parties can even run fools who pander to rage (Mr. Paliadino comes to mind) and think nothing of it. Gerrymandered districts and the protected power of corporate lobbyists (both major parties are corporatist in their souls, their differences are not differences that make a difference) preclude fundamental change.
You think you have power when you enter the booth? That’s exactly what those in power want you to think. Enjoy your voting moment.
Hoffman go home. you will do nothing,but enable Owens to win by duliting the parties vote. Unless of course you worked something out with owens and will be added to his payroll should he win in November.
i’m sticking with Matt all the way to Washington. And I’m not on his payroll now or ever.
I hope the Hoffmeister spends every last dime he has.
My eleven year old daughter said it best, ” Hoffman is a weenie, vote for DOHENY”
Doug Hoffman needs to concede and throw his support to Matt Doheny, if he really cares about conservative ideals and sending Conservative minded people to Washington then he will stop the nonsense and withdraw. As a republican and a Conservative I am sick and tired of the idiots who won’t give up and end up splitting/spreading the votes and costing us elections.
Why are we the people , worried about what our ELECTED officials are going to get over on us . We the people need to stand together and jack their condisending butts. Both partys have mistaken the trust that we the people have bestowed for apathy and ignorance . If I hired someone to do a job and then had to watch over their shoulder to make sure that they didn’t mess up that person wouldn’t have a job very long . and so it should be.
Prior to the election Doheney announced he would support Hoffman should Hoffman win. Well for the 2nd time now he is a loser. Step back and throw your support to Matt…then get a life
What’ll we do with a drunken sailor earli in the mornin?
More drama in NY 23rd…think outside the box…”less taxation without representation” only means long island tea drinkers think that’s gonna work! Let’s put everybody who works in the government local state or federal on their backsides. Leave the politicians alone and fire all the overpaid janitorial, secretarial, policy twisting interns and paraprofessionals truly running things out. Put all of them on welfare and put people wanting change and to work together at the right hand of those who want to serve! Then fire the politicians who simply serve themselves. For me it’s simple Bill’s really not doing bad…Doug is a winer…and Mr. Doheny already feels priveledged!
Hoffman needs to drop out if he realy cares about the republicans winning this seat but would rather push his own personal agenda. Is Doheny realy the best choice well at least he has the ambition and new ideas to bring to the table and we will probably never see these because of you Mr. Hoffman.
There are sub-wars going on here in addition to a 3-way race that provide an important framework in this election.
The underlying problems are the battles between Doug and the GOP leadership in NNY, as well the one between Mike Long and that same GOP leadership.
Doug is running to spite and “teach” the GOP a lesson because he feels he should have had their support after last fall’s near miss. He was a guy with street cred, but the GOP despises him and looked to support another as a result. Hence we have Doheny.
Doug is also running out of loyalty to Long, who also is at war with the Jim Ellis group because they don’t get it, in Long’s view.
How will this resonate with voters? We’ll get a first impression when Siena issues a poll in early Oct.
The spite involved her was what the county chairs did in Putting up Dohenybecause Hoffman exposed them for what they did last year. If Dede this year had been the sole candidate save Doug, this corrupt bunch of horses arses would have picked her again. As for the rank and file voting in Doheny this is true.Many people do as they are told by the county chairmen. Just as many are too lazy to look past the party affiliation of candidates. If our lord Jesus Christ were running as a Republican ther are many among us that would cast their vote for the common house cat Dem or squirrel just as long as it was not the Republican
Hoffman’s martyr complex thing, the 1st Commandment of the Tea Party, is amusing. For all his empty rhetoric, the indisputable fact remains that Matt Doheny is the candidate on the ballot because he was chosen by voters and Doug Hoffman is the candidate on the ballot because he was anointed by party bosses.
Maybe some people noticed that Hoffman has yet to give a hint as to how he might actually accomplish any change. It’s real easy to say, “If elected, I’ll do A, B, and C.” ‘Nother thing entirely to say how.
REMEMBER WHEN THE REPUBLICANS STORMED WASHINGTON IN THE MID 90’S ON CONSERVATIVE VALUES (CONTRACT WITH AMERICA) THE PARTY SELECTED ALL OF THESE “YOUNG GUN” CONSERVATIVE TALKING, POLITICTIANS. THEY DID WELL FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THEN THE OFFERS OF REAL POWER OVER PEOPLES LIVES HITS THESE “TYPE A”PERSONALITY TYPES AND THEY BEGAN TO IGNOR THE PEOPLE AND THESE SUPPOSED CONSERVATIVES WENT ON TO HELP BUILD THE FINANCIAL PROBLEM WE NOW FACE. WELL REAL CONSERVATIVES SAT OUT THE NEXT VOTING CYCLE AS A PROTEST TO THE REBUBLICAN PARTY. THE PARTIES RESPONSE AFTER THEY LOST BIG WAS “WE GET THE MESSAGE” WELL APPARENTLY THEY FORGOT THAT LESSON PUTTING UP CANDIDATES LIKE DEDE AND STANDING BEHIND THE SUSAN COLLINS’ NOW REPUBLICANS ARE SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT A CANDIDATE THAT HAS DEMONSTRATED ELITIST, I’M BETTER THAN YOU PERSONALITY TRAITS (RECALL THE UNIFORMED OFFICERS OF THE LAW THAT DARED TO INCONVENIENCE MR. DOHENY WHAT KIND OF REPRESENTATIVE WOULD HE BECOME WHEN THE WASHINGTON MACHINE GETS A HOLD OF HIM. I THINK THAT PRINCIPALED VOTERS DESERVE A PRINCIPALED CANDIDATE TO VOTE FOR. I DON’T SEE DOUG HOFFMANS CONTINUING ON AS PREVENTING A DOHENY WIN BECAUSE REPUBLICAN TURN OUT WILL SUFFER (DOUG WILL BRING HIS OWN VOTERS TO THE POLLS).