Brian Williams is either lying or unforgivably incompetent

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There’s been a lot said in recent day about the anger that Iraq veterans feel about Brian Williams account of his experience aboard a helicopter during the war in 2003.  Williams infamously claimed that he was aboard a chopper that took AK-47 and RPG fire.

After being confronted by furious soldiers, angered by the apparent deception, he now acknowledges that this narrative was untrue.  Williams also, however, suggested that he was himself the victim of a kind of false memory, that his error was regrettable but inadvertent and perhaps even innocent.

“I would not have chosen to make this mistake,” Williams said. “I don’t know what screwed up in my mind that caused me to conflate one aircraft with another.”

Very likely, there is more fact-finding to be done here, but as a journalist, I find myself very nearly as furious as those veterans.  Service-members were disrespected by Williams’ phony heroism.  But it’s our credibility, our ethical standards that are on the line.

As this scandal evolves, here’s why I think Williams’ own reputation is permanently shot.

When a journalist — especially an extremely high-level journalist like Williams — goes into a conflict zone, he’s not traveling alone.  He’s accompanied by a field crew.  In helping to break this story, Stars and Stripes, a news outlet that focuses on military affairs, confirmed that Williams was part of an NBC team during that 2003 trip into the desert.

In other words, it wasn’t just Williams who would have needed a false memory of this event.  His camera-person, his producer — the entire apparatus that produced NBC’s award-winning Iraq coverage — would have needed to have experienced collective brain freeze. The idea that all those NBC personnel forgot the facts over the last decade?  Hard to swallow.

But even if Williams wasn’t deliberately lying, he still chose to take his story public, repeatedly, offering highly specific details, without doing even the most basic journalistic diligence.  This was a guy treating a highly sensitive event — there’s no story more serious.   And he had resources at his fingertips that would have allowed him to easily double-check his memory, confirm his impressions.  One call to his producer?  A look back at the footage?  Heck, he might have gone old-school and checked his own notes.

Instead, Williams went on the Letterman show and portrayed himself as a front-line battlefield journalist, a guy taking incoming fire at the tip of the spear of America’s invasion of Iraq.  Getting it so horribly  over and over?  That makes him either a pathological liar and an insufferable blowhard, or a profoundly incompetent journalist who played fast and loose with exactly the kind of story you should treat with the deepest respect.

Listening back to the self-aggrandizing, false-modest tone of the yarns he spun about this event — and listening this week to the shameful mock-apology Williams offered, arguing that his narrative was motivated by a modest desire to honor American soldiers — it seemed less and less important which is true.  A rotten journalist or a rotten liar?   Who cares.  Either way, his reputation is done.

So here’s where things stand.  Williams has offered an apology to Iraq vets.  That’s a good start.  Next he should offer an apology to the journalists who actually report ethically and courageously from war  zones all over the world.   Where his career goes after that?  I guess he’ll have to make something up.

 

45 Comments on “Brian Williams is either lying or unforgivably incompetent”

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  1. The Original Larry says:

    I’m going with the “pathological liar/insufferable blowhard” estimation.

  2. knuckleheadedliberal says:

    After all of the errors in news coverage and propaganda surrounding the War In Iraq and Afghanistan, after the propping up of Jessica Lynch, after the lies around Pat Tillman’s death, after Colin Powell sitting at the UN with a silly vial of white powder, after Curveball, after the lies about WMD, after the Shock and Awe, after the media glorification of Rumsfeld and his idiotic press conferences, after Judith Miller, after millions of people protested against the war and were called a focus group by GWB, after the Chicken Hawks and the Neo Cons,after the media refusing to do its job in seriously vetting all of those stories and really holding people’s feet to the fire it is pretty hard for me to get much indignation up over this.

  3. hermit thrush says:

    he’d also do well to offer his resignation.

  4. bill shaver says:

    I’m not surprised at this, no one ever anymore properly vetts a story…so go figure….

  5. bill shaver says:

    so what next…the sky going to fall…everyone should takea valium……or two….the whole eppisod since 2001…it stank from the get go, security services knew somthing like crashing airliners full of people be it in buildings or oceans was going to happen…and they bickered who was in charge….typical….now look at us, the usa…boy do we lok silly….cant even get a simple thing done …like medicare for all, so people do not go into bakruptcy for heathcare…..too sad….., to say nothing of pensions, , you really want to start things right start writing your elected reps to promote these things to fix the obvious problems plaguing people in usa……never mind this so called refection on the nonsense of 2001…..

  6. bill shaver says:

    actually the big story today is the hack of blue cross /blue shield heath insurer…not this old story…but there you go the press thourgly unmasked for what they are…..

  7. @tourpro says:

    There’s also a third-possibility…. that he is BOTH.

  8. knuckleheadedliberal says:

    And then there is the very real possibility that he mis-remebered the events. It is well known that eye witness testimony can be just plain wrong, people mis-remember all the time.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/mind-bending-why-our-memories-are-not-always-our-own-7939049.html

  9. guest says:

    no news here, move along citizens….

  10. The Original Larry says:

    NBC is no better than Fox News, or any other media news outlet, when it comes to the never-ending quest for ratings. They blur the line between editorializing and news reporting and they encourage their anchors/reporters to become part of the news, all in the hope of widening their audiences and increasing their ratings. They all do it; some more than others certainly, but they are all guilty. It’s not surprising that someone would hype their experience, nor is it surprising that the story went unreported for so long.

  11. Peter Hahn says:

    Politicians lie all the time. they exaggerate their resumes even inventing degrees. We are used to that. We even accept it sometimes when they plagiarize speeches. Sex and drugs and gaffes get them in trouble. Journalists on the other hand are held to a very different standard. . They can do all sorts of stuff that politicians can’t do ( Sex and drugs and gaffes), but if they lie or plagiarize, thats it.

  12. Brian Mann says:

    OL – I think your comparison of NBC News to Fox News is factually unsupportable, but in this context the proof will be in the pudding. If Brian Williams doesn’t face any kind of disciplinary action over this, then it will be a strong bit of evidence in support of your thesis that NBC values other things over journalistic ethics and accuracy. So let’s see what they do in the days ahead. If Williams is disciplined for the kind of falsehood that leading Fox News personalities commit with impunity on a daily basis, I think it will show a stark line between what the two organizations are attempting to do. If he’s left untouched? My argument about a meaningful distinction will be harder to make.

    -Brian, NCPR

  13. Two Cents says:

    mr. Hahn is right. as a journalist do what you’d like (look at hunter s Thompson) but if you lie, what good are you?

  14. The Original Larry says:

    Brian,
    I think you missed the part where I said “…some more than others…” That said, the story has been known to be false since it was first told many years ago. Brian Williams was not alone on that helicopter. It’s naive to think NBC wasn’t aware.

  15. Brian Mann says:

    OL – Fair enough. And yes, if I were a reporter assigned to this story, I would definitely be asking questions about NBC News’ involvement in this story over the years. Why didn’t his field crew speak up sooner when he began to stray beyond the facts? There may be a good explanation, and a credible news organization would move quickly to speak transparently about what they might be…

    –Brian, NCPR

  16. Hawkeye says:

    Another “journalist” using a war he promoted, and the veterans who fought that war, to bolster his career – no surprise there.

  17. Jim Bullard says:

    I’m with Knuckleheadedliberal on this one. In my estimation it’s right (or rather down) up there with inflategate. So he said he was in a chopper that was fired on and it was actually the chopper ahead of his that took the hits. I recall a quote from Winston Churchill who said “Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.” It also tends to bend one’s memory of specific details surrounding the incident. It’s old news. It’s silly. He apologized for his error. Give it a rest.

  18. This doesn’t really shame my faith in TV journalism, since I lost that faith a long time ago for many reasons, including those Knuckle mentioned. Al-Jazeera is the only place on the dial to find decent coverage of domestic issues because it’s far less DC-centric. But I’m sure the US journalistic establishment will be rattled by this incident since Williams is one of their high priests.

    Original Larry may be right. NBC, CBS, ABC and especially CNN are not be identical to the widely discredited Fox News (sic) but I’m not sure they’re any better. They dutifully mouth establishment tool viewpoints – everything id DC-centric – and are loathe to give any serious coverage to non-mainstream views. Their idea of a “debate” is a guy arguing that we should aggress Iraq unilaterally tomorrow facing off with a guy arguing that we should wait for UN approval before we aggress Iraq. The 30% who thought at the time that we shouldn’t aggress Iraq at all was rarely represented.

    The national news media is all about access, not about what to do with that access. That’s why they always talk about the issues that someone in power wants to talk about. They don’t explore anything that’s a consensus among those in power and there are far more consensuses among those in power than the media would have you believe. Williams’ “exaggeration” dovetails nicely with this. At the time, everyone was gung ho about the war and he wanted to steal a little bit of reflected glory.

    That’s why the most significant journalism in recent years has been done by people outside the DC press corps: Chalmers Johnson, Seymour Hersch, Matt Taibbi. The water carrying of the three networks and CNN carrying for those may be less overt propaganda than Fox News but that make them more dangerous because the non-ideologue is going to give them more credibility. This is sad because a trusted media is a key part of our democracy. I was a college journalist myself so maybe I’m harsher because I expect more. But it’s no accident that the Fifth Estate’s decline has coincided with the decline of our democracy.

    Most mainstream journalists will not accept the above two paragraphs. They cling to the old formula of “standard liberal POV” plus “standard conservative POV” (sometimes plus “standard academic ‘expert’ POV) plus “reporter summary.” This is transcription, not journalism. They can continue to play ostrich all they want but the public has rendered its verdict. A Gallup poll last fall found trust in the news media at an all-time low (http://www.gallup.com/poll/176042/trust-mass-media-returns-time-low.aspx). And that’s not just Republicans and conservatives.

    I’ve run across many ordinary journalists who are open-minded to reporting non-mainstream views only to see them nixed by editors. Individual reporters may get it but they work in a larger structure: most of the media is corporate owned.

    Look at NCPR vs NPR. NCPR did a lot of good work on the Congressional race including real journalism – not just transcription – of Matt Funiciello, whose opinions were definitely outside the two-party norm but whose views clearly resonated with a notable percentage of the population. I think NCPR covered him adequately in quantity and fairly in quality. How much coverage does NPR ever give of non-major party candidates? Tons of “analysis” about silly polls but virtually no reporting of non-major party candidates. ALL Things Considered, they claim? NPR is not overtly commercial but it’s heavily reliant on endowments and underwriting. NCPR is grass roots.

  19. As a matter of fact, this is exactly the kind of “scandal” the mainstream media loves. They love Jayson Blair and Brian Williams. They love the existence of Fox News and the NY Post. It allows them to ritualistically denounce a blindingly obvious abuse in an attempt to look good and distract people from the bigger structural problems, the bigger deceits and the bigger disservices that Knuckle and I referred to. It’s low hanging fruit to try to distract people with.

  20. The Original Larry says:

    Why make excuses for someone who is clearly lying and trying to cover up the lie with even more outlandish stories? He didn’t need to embellish his experience, it was hazardous enough, especially for a civilian. It’s people who lie when they don’t need to who really worry me.

  21. Mervel says:

    I think the interesting thing is all of the crew and staff that Brian mentioned, who all knew he was lying, but didn’t say anything. That is simple fear for their jobs, and it shows the type of work environment these guys really operate within how Williams and his cronies actually treat people.

  22. jeff says:

    I like Mervel’s comment. The comment’s I’ve heard indicated that when first reported( at the time of the incident) Williams didn’t say he was in the copter that was hit but that more recently the story changed. The staff with him then has probably largely scattered and lacks connection to a microphone where someone will listen, or are of the opinion, that after 12 years they have better things to do than deal with Williams bad memory.

    I don’t watch network or cable news programs on a nightly or weekly basis or even monthly basis so to me they are the same as the Daily Show or the Colbert report of which I have never seen an entire show. I hear more public radio because I am more often in a vehicle. I expect more of “news” programs than shows but when the stuff put in “news” stories are the aberrations of life because that is all there is time for, I look for stuff that has more relevance to me. Williams telling a personal incident wrong for whatever reason does not affect me, it affects his credibility and may affect his employer and obviously affects people who believe recognition of their services is diminished by false claims of Mr. Williams. Is Williams setting his truck up for a broadside to the gas tank? In light of Dan Rather’s document problem, I would be surprised if this was intentional. But it does show a lack of self-reflection or failure to fact-check himself.

  23. dave says:

    Hey helped peddled the lies that pushed us into a war in Iraq, but that apparently is not as a big of an offense as lying about a helicopter ride he took while over there.

    We are a strange people.

  24. dave says:

    He* helped peddle*

  25. The Original Larry says:

    Why is everything a vast conspiracy and, more often than not, a conservative conspiracy? Can’t it just be a stupid man who did a bad thing?

  26. Brian Mann says:

    Actually, Dave, I think you’re onto something. One reason why it’s so important to report factually in a situation like this (the Iraq invasion) is that you don’t want to find yourself sliding into jingoism or hero-worship or false narratives. Williams has essentially said (I’m paraphrasing) “I got this wrong because I was trying so hard to express praise and respect for service-members.”

    But that’s not a journalist’s job. A journalist’s job is to tell accurate stories. If those stories reflect behavior that warrants praise – great. If not, then not. It’s also a fact that by fudging the truth, Williams put himself in a compromised position with the very people he needed to cover fairly and objectively and (at times) with skepticism.

    As a reporter, one of the things I remind myself about all the time is “I’m not them.” Whether I’m with first responders or cops or soldiers or politicians or doctors or whomever — I make it clear to myself and my sources that I am not the story and I am not a member of the club.

    I think one of the thing that comes through in Williams’ statements over the years is that he struggled with that boundary.

    –Brian, NCPR

  27. Two Cents says:

    send in your resume mr. mann.

  28. Jeff says:

    Brian, that is an interesting angle, if I understand it, you suggest he may have been trying to commend the pilots etc who operated the helicopters. We tend to get upset with reporters who “won’t get involved,” “don’t want to be part of the story.” It is callous to stand-by and watch things take place rather than lend a hand. Sure, it is the job of reporting. I am reminded of the sports announcer who forgot himself and yelled “look at that _ _ _ _ run.” Our side, those asked to observe or listen to the stories, those whose family members or by extension fellow citizens (family) are exposed to danger, desires their recognition for work that is dangerous because we feel part of them because we sent them. We can’t say to the soldiers, great job, but vicariously we want the reporter to give recognition to their efforts. The justness of the decision to send them is a different topic. We’re not ignorant to the dangers, even if we had no inbeded reporters which is what limits their value in my opinion. Facts like the inadequacy of body armor and armor on equipment were validated by reporting close to the action.

  29. Mervel says:

    Don’t do it! It’s why we need quality NPR/NCPR reporting as a balance against the ego stuff.

  30. Brian Mann says:

    For the record, when I was covering the fall of Saigon and helped lift the last escaping embassy staff into the helicopter, NBC did offer me the nightly news anchor job, but I turned them down because I was just too dang humble. At least that’s how I remember it. :)

    Have a great weekend everybody.

    –Brian, NCPR

  31. dave says:

    Haha, that was good for a legitimate laugh out loud! Thanks for that.

  32. myown says:

    I think Brian-NCPR identified one of the problems with the national press. Unlike Brian, the news people who cover DC politics want to be one of them and a member of the club. They don’t want to risk offending those in power or their corporate bosses. The national press corps have become lapdogs not the watchdogs they are supposed to be. And democracy, our country and the truth have suffered as a result. The worst example is the Iraq war where the national press led the drumbeat and failed to question or investigate the administration’s claims.

    The major national media outlets have become lame and irrelevant to many. The nightly news shows and Sunday morning interviews are as predictable as the sun rising and a waste of time. And then there are cable shows like FOX that are nothing more than blatant political propaganda. There are people doing unbiased, truth seeking, fact based reporting but they are in second and third tier media outlets. Thank goodness for the internet that we have access to them.

  33. bill shaver says:

    NCPR & CBC I find are good news sources, the morning editions & the weather, from ncpr clear & concise along with meterological data, same at environment canada…also check out the sights for weather on line at enviro canada & NOAA…they give maps with fronts & anticapted precipitation colse usually. But for news usually rely on Ncpr & CBC.they give you well rounded world, national & local….not to mention their programs….rady bachman on vynl cafe terrific, mountain stage, wait wait dont tell me, the list goes on…just have to sort through the sensationilism….Also why are they not doing human stories about the measels, and the comming of medicare for all in usa…it’ll supplant the ACA in 2017.

  34. knuckleheadedliberal says:

    An earlier report from the War on Terror:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q4roxM8hUMk

  35. bill shaver says:

    ahh comon…such old news get on with the news of the day….the blue cross hack….

  36. bill shaver says:

    on the other hand starts & stripes hardly a credible news service…anymore… peoples memoreis do fog in stressfulkl situiations, its the mind protecting itself…. built in defense mechinism….so if he did …or didnt …no use to mock him…for doing so speaks who you are, not him….and the whole affair in Iraq & Afganastan for last 13+ years…well why bother… might want to consider now the proliferation of those everywhere who want to make their mark in the name of terrorism.,..actually thaey are all losers, just loking for their 15 min of fame…..they are nothing but thugs & losers.point finalle …now can we get to some real news stories like medicae for all & the blue cross hack….

  37. knuckleheadedliberal says:

    Birds of a feather:

    “In the 1980 presidential campaign, Ronald Reagan repeatedly told a heartbreaking story of a World War II bomber pilot who ordered his crew to bail out after his plane had been seriously damaged by an enemy hit. His young belly gunner was wounded so seriously that he was unable to evacuate the bomber. Reagan could barely hold back his tears as he uttered the pilot’s heroic response: “Never mind. We’ll ride it down together.” The press soon realized that this story was an almost exact duplicate of a scene in the 1944 film A Wing and a Prayer. Reagan had apparently retained the facts but forgotten their source.”

    http://www.poisonyourmind.com/2013/02/remembering-reagan-misremembering/

  38. pirateedwardlow says:

    This is not a defense of Mr. Williams, but there have been several stories in the news lately (I believe they were related to brain research books) on how the mind can create the illusion of truth.

    I don’t know if this is the case with with Mr. Williams (and again it doesn’t absolve him), but I wonder if there are any righteous posters here who knew something to be true, until another (perhaps a friend or family member) reminded them how things really were?

  39. knuckleheadedliberal says:

    Yes pirate edward (auto correct wanted to call you pirate dwarf, good thing I caught that), follow the link on my post above – the one that currently has 6 dislikes.

    Charles Ferneyhough wrote a very interesting book about memory last year. I would post a link but ever since I updated my iPad to iOS 8 the thing has become unruly, sort of like a Microsoft product- annoying. maybe it is a memory problem. So check the link above and Google Charles.

    Also, as I pointed out just above here, Ronald Reagan was famous for having the same kind of memory as Williams is exhibiting. I would think Fox News would LOVE him for that.

  40. pirateedwardlow says:

    Knuck, thanks I went to the Reagan one, but not yours

    Maybe what media needs, save 10 minutes at the end of the show for fact check

  41. knuckleheadedliberal says:

    To me the real question is, did Williams report on the incident incorrectly at the time? If so he should be fired.
    If it is only that he tells the story in entertainment settings that is wholly different because while it may make him a blowhard it is not a reflection on his work. This is America, we have loved blowhards from the beginning and Fox shows that we love Blowhards more than ever.

  42. bill shaver says:

    Oh boy…. talk of misquotes & the press, i distintly remember that election…the one that brought Mr Regan to the whit house, disticly remember the press point out his mis quote of the day & his plagerism of famous lines from movies…oh boy it was really weird…but the public bought off on it & the lie was in…and the rest …well well..keep right on liing….and the american public bout the delusion of grandeur all the way….and are still buying it for the most part…the repubs, ( ricky booby gop 500 nascar race) are pedalling it again for upcomming federal election…but i think the cracaks in the front are their widening, real issues are comming to the forefront…finally…the act of repealing the ACA & replace it with somthing more tangable is in the works, remains to be seen if it’ll be them( yeah right)…or the dems…or they’ll just argue till the sect 1332 comes into force, the NOTWITHSTANDING CLASUS OF THE ACA…AND IT ALLOWS STATES TO CHANGE OVER TO A SINGLE PAYER SYSTEM, The Repubs & dems are only interested in getting their exalted pensions…….not you or I …just their pensions…..oh and their exhalted heathcare coverage…..

  43. knuckleheadedliberal says:

    The sad thing is that nobody at Fox seems to feel any need to be truthful. for that matter I can’t think of too many people who are held accountable for spreading bull. We have a whole state in this country dedicated to being blowhards. We call it Texas. We celebrate lies in our history of Tall Tales, old Pecos Bill and such. Many of our most prominent politicians don’t even recognize basic science and many of us are so dedicated to mythology that we go to church every Sunday, or other houses of worship on Friday and Saturday to hear more about stuff that never happened.

    If we are all going to be held accountable for telling the truth we are in very deep bull doo.

  44. Two Cents says:

    with stewart retiring, maybe Williams wants the job. he’s unemployed, and experienced reporting fake news….

  45. knuckleheadedliberal says:

    BREAKING NEWS: Bill O Reilly is a blowhard too!!!!

    Okay, maybe we already knew that, but it looks like (surprise, surprise, surprise) old papa bear been slinging some bull about his war reporter bona fides.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/19/bill-oreilly-war_n_6717260.html

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